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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Neither can I, so why are we being shown a circuit that includes a battery? This is clearly unhelpful unless the battery is somehow hidden in the video.

Hi Hoppy,

Well, x_name41 wrote he symbolized the hand-cranked generator with the battery...

If I consider this circuit and the video demo on it NOT a fake then it might work as follows:

The ground with the long white cable is connected VIA the lamp load to one wire end of the single turn output coil, L4, the other wire end of L4 is either connected to the common negative point of the circuit or left floating, so the bottom line is there is no deliberately closed circuit across output coil L4, the lamp load is NOT connected directly across L4.

This may mean a capacitive coupling could exist between the ground and the total circuit, similarly like in case of an Avramenko plug which seemingly a single wire power transfer.
The capacitance may be formed from the circuit board via the air towards and into the ground / soil volume, and if I accept it to be a a low value capacitor, it should have a dielectric which air + soil, so a certain part of the reactive power which is enclosed in L1C must go through this air+soil dielectic and via the load too.? How small this virtual capacitance can be? I can only guess ranging from under 10 pF up to a few times 10 pF so the working frequency should be high,? from the some hundred kHz to the some MHz range, this capacitor value surely depends also on the length of that white cable going from the load point to the ground pipe (capacitive coupling).?

Does this make sense?? ?I simply try to understand this as if it were not a fake, also trying to understand x_name41 thoughts on this.?

Gyula


@x_name41,is there not someone on this forum out near where this demo was shown that could just buy the gen for 2/ 3000 dollars then reverse engineer to put us all out of our misery.
Regards
Keith?


@x_name41,is there not someone on this forum out near where this demo was shown that could just buy the gen for 2/ 3000 dollars then reverse engineer to put us all out of our misery.
Regards
Keith

Continuing with captainkt or can we do the schematic of this build so that we can replicate?


Neither can I, so why are we being shown a circuit that includes a battery? This is clearly unhelpful unless the battery is somehow hidden in the video.
Because all this could be a deception by the energy mafia in order to distract from any clear concept that could really work?

These are the same kind of amorphous non-proven diagrams which were around here on page 5 (!!) already and so far to no avail.

So why not simply re-use one of them. :)


ok, so the order of proceeding is the following must first be build working simple parallel resonant (high voltage) circuit and only after that to build the rest of schematic circuit


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Because all this could be a deception by the energy mafia in order to distract from any clear concept that could really work?

These are the same kind of amorphous non-proven diagrams which were around here on page 5 (!!) already and so far to no avail.

So why not simply re-use one of them. :)

not, this scheme is very different!

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Hi Hoppy,

Well, x_name41 wrote he symbolized the hand-cranked generator with the battery...

If I consider this circuit and the video demo on it NOT a fake then it might work as follows:

The ground with the long white cable is connected VIA the lamp load to one wire end of the single turn output coil, L4, the other wire end of L4 is either connected to the common negative point of the circuit or left floating, so the bottom line is there is no deliberately closed circuit across output coil L4, the lamp load is NOT connected directly across L4.

This may mean a capacitive coupling could exist between the ground and the total circuit, similarly like in case of an Avramenko plug which seemingly a single wire power transfer.
The capacitance may be formed from the circuit board via the air towards and into the ground / soil volume, and if I accept it to be a a low value capacitor, it should have a dielectric which air + soil, so a certain part of the reactive power which is enclosed in L1C must go through this air+soil dielectic and via the load too.? How small this virtual capacitance can be? I can only guess ranging from under 10 pF up to a few times 10 pF so the working frequency should be high,? from the some hundred kHz to the some MHz range, this capacitor value surely depends also on the length of that white cable going from the load point to the ground pipe (capacitive coupling).?

Does this make sense?? ?I simply try to understand this as if it were not a fake, also trying to understand x_name41 thoughts on this.?

Gyula


Yes, what you suggest makes sense insofar as its somewhat akin to Tesla's magnifying transmitter setup were a virtual ground is created with respect to true earth which is then effectively the 'hot' conductor. The problem with this circuit is that with a hand cranked generator just for start-up, there is no input source of energy to maintain a resonant circuit. I can see nothing with this circuit from x_name41 to suggest that there is anything special or really different from the plethora of similar circuit arrangements already posted on the fora.

...? The problem with this circuit is that with a hand cranked generator just for start-up, there is no input source of energy to maintain a resonant circuit. I can see nothing with this circuit from x_name41 to suggest that there is anything special or really different from the plethora of similar circuit arrangements already posted on the fora.

Perhaps the capacitor bank which is charged up by the generator is able to maintain the circuit to feed resonant power into the L1C tank. In the video the guy doing the hand-cranking of the generator measures something (probably voltage) I am unable to see but the multimeter's tips are tied to the capacitor bank. Then he pulles out something from the board (I think it is an insulating piece to separate two otherwise touching pins, this may be the S2 switch in the schematic by x_name41)? i.e. the guy switches on the rest of the circuit, this happens at 00:12 in the video and the drive to the tank circuit may start.? I watched carefully and I think that 3 or max 4 seconds later the incandescent lamps start to light up very deemly first, then they reach the moderate brightness.? By the way, the output voltage across the lamps was about 155V (if the multimeter was able to measure correctly the modulated waveform) as I figure from the text in the schematic. This means that the output power may not have been one kW if the bulbs were made for 220V...? but still a few hundred watts.
So the capacitor bank was needed to supply enough "juice" for 3-4 seconds, then the feedback transformer? may have been able to supply the circuit from the output power. The primary coil of this transformer was in parallel with the lamps as shown in the schematic by x_name41 and probable worked from the 50 Hz "parts" of the the modulated waveform coming from the L1C tank circuit,? obviously the several hundred kHz "parts" of the output waveform did not drive this normal mains-type-looking toroidal transformer, designed for the mains frequency (50 Hz in Russia).
I observed one more thing: the guy gripped the ground connection on the pipe (see in the video at 01:06) either to show it was not hot (maybe from heat due to the possible lamps current draw) or to show it was not under the 220V mains voltage...? I do not know.

So if this video was not a fake and a part of the high voltage reactive power circulating in the L1C tank was really driven through the ground via the lamp load (by the help of coupling coil L4) then we have seen a self runner...?

EDIT:? Eventually what we can see (and still giving the benefit of doubt) is that 3 paralleled lamp bulbs are grounded at one of their connection points and are driven by a "single wire",? this single wire is one of the ends of coupling coil L4.? (This single wire feeding is like an Avramenko plug, without the rectifier diodes.)? And the coil L4 is driven from the reactive power in the L1C tank circuit, provided this reactive power is high enough to defeat all the wire and ground/soil dielectric losses of the total tank circuit so that the lamp load is still able to receive the some hundred watts 'brightness'.

Gyula


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